what do you say to that, lisa? >> based on what we know right now, i have to respectfully disagree with the national coalition. because what jane who is a respected criminal defense attorney in that jurisdiction says under oath is that sa ma that scheibe contacted her. and even if jane had reached out to samantha scheibe, there's nothing wrong with that. i reach out to witnesses every day to try to get to the truth, to try to help my client. so i don't see any manipulation. i don't see that. it's possible that happened, but i think that's purely speculative at this point. i think the ball's in samantha scheibe's court. she's the one who made allegations. by the way, lying to police is a misdemeanor in florida. she admits that's what she's done. she now has legal jeopardy. >> but isn't it also true that her lawyer could have done this if this was her feeling and try to protect her at the same time, faith? >> well, she could. and i always hear people say, oh, can you prosecute the alleged victim now for lying to the